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	<title>Comments on: Organicism in &#8220;With A Little Help From My Friends&#8221;</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: trevordeclercq</title>
		<link>http://www.midside.com/2007/05/24/beatles_friends/#comment-1257</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juanma: according to the liner notes for the song, the backing vocals are by Madeleine Bell, Sunny Weetman, and Rosetta Hightower.  Obviously, at least two of those singers are female and there aren't two guys in that bunch.  Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juanma: according to the liner notes for the song, the backing vocals are by Madeleine Bell, Sunny Weetman, and Rosetta Hightower.  Obviously, at least two of those singers are female and there aren&#8217;t two guys in that bunch.  Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: juanma</title>
		<link>http://www.midside.com/2007/05/24/beatles_friends/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator>juanma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY THERE, I´M ON THIS BET WITH A FRIEND OF MINE,
HE SAYS IN COCKER´S VERSION THE CHORUS IS PREFORMED BY TWO DUDES, I OBVIOUSLY THINK THEY RECORDED FEMALE SINGERS FOR THIS, IS THERE ANYWAY YOU CAN HELP ME OUT, WITH THE REAL INFO ABOUT THIS MATTER, AND HEY! NICE ANALYSIS OF THE MUSICAL ARRANGEMENTS,TOO. PLEASE REPLY TO MY EMAIL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY THERE, I´M ON THIS BET WITH A FRIEND OF MINE,<br />
HE SAYS IN COCKER´S VERSION THE CHORUS IS PREFORMED BY TWO DUDES, I OBVIOUSLY THINK THEY RECORDED FEMALE SINGERS FOR THIS, IS THERE ANYWAY YOU CAN HELP ME OUT, WITH THE REAL INFO ABOUT THIS MATTER, AND HEY! NICE ANALYSIS OF THE MUSICAL ARRANGEMENTS,TOO. PLEASE REPLY TO MY EMAIL</p>
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		<title>By: The Science of Songwriting &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Organicism in &#8220;Long Time Gone&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.midside.com/2007/05/24/beatles_friends/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>The Science of Songwriting &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Organicism in &#8220;Long Time Gone&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] talked about organicism in a recent post about the Beatles, but I thought I&#8217;d return to the subject again. In the Beatles tune (&#8221;With a Little [...]</description>
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		<title>By: trevordeclercq</title>
		<link>http://www.midside.com/2007/05/24/beatles_friends/#comment-319</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, &lt;b&gt;Chip&lt;/b&gt;, you are correct.  Cocker's version does discard the ii-V-I progression at the end of the phrase in the verse and puts in a longer V-I.  It is worth noting because often when people, especially jazzers (not that Cocker is a jazzer), cover a song, they will substitute a ii-V for a V.  Here it's the opposite.  Cocker has simplified the progression down to its essentials.  It's kind of the same as what happens in the bridge in that respect.  I think we're seeing a trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, <b>Chip</b>, you are correct.  Cocker&#8217;s version does discard the ii-V-I progression at the end of the phrase in the verse and puts in a longer V-I.  It is worth noting because often when people, especially jazzers (not that Cocker is a jazzer), cover a song, they will substitute a ii-V for a V.  Here it&#8217;s the opposite.  Cocker has simplified the progression down to its essentials.  It&#8217;s kind of the same as what happens in the bridge in that respect.  I think we&#8217;re seeing a trend.</p>
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		<title>By: chip</title>
		<link>http://www.midside.com/2007/05/24/beatles_friends/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also noticed that Joe changes the rhythm of the chord progression of the verse - the second line starts on V instead of the Beatles' ii. I wonder if you don't subtly hear that conflict between what you "know" from the original vs. what you're hearing in the cover as another point of tension to pull back to the tonic? Or maybe the organ's playing the ii chord, my ear training skills are too rusty to tell without having a keyboard nearby...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also noticed that Joe changes the rhythm of the chord progression of the verse - the second line starts on V instead of the Beatles&#8217; ii. I wonder if you don&#8217;t subtly hear that conflict between what you &#8220;know&#8221; from the original vs. what you&#8217;re hearing in the cover as another point of tension to pull back to the tonic? Or maybe the organ&#8217;s playing the ii chord, my ear training skills are too rusty to tell without having a keyboard nearby&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Science of Songwriting &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Common Tones in the Beatles&#8217;s &#8220;Help&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.midside.com/2007/05/24/beatles_friends/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>The Science of Songwriting &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Common Tones in the Beatles&#8217;s &#8220;Help&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 16:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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